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The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross by John Marco Allegro

The book relates the development of language to the development of myths, religions, and cultic practices in world cultures. Allegro argues, through etymology, that the roots of Christianity, and many other religions, la…

“our true identity and ultimate destiny is and praise God for it. And then there's also the sacred mushroom in the cross, the John Marker Allegro book, where he was one of the ordained ministers that was his task was to decode the Dead Sea Scrolls.”